BTW... 2 days at 85 and avg ilvl is 359... fun stuff.. granted, thats 65K later, but JP and VP gear, its doable to a simalar degree with out much more time... Dont run heroic if your grinding JP for gear... to slow and too many tards... healers tanks and dps can all be stupid and you still get through normal dungeons fast...
This is more a post of me thinking through a current situation...
Consistently server top 25 guild, and as high as 5 that I know of. The main group that is.
There used to be 2 other groups going, one leader seems to have quit the game, a second quit the guild in a drama fest and took about 10 casual raiders, and 5 more regulars with them. prolly more.
The fallout... In the same week, a more guild established player and myself both must have said something like, "Time to step up and field group 2." They took the main raid lead and lead/organized raids... when they were around, and managed 1-5 (not counting BH) bosses a week.. usually 2, and those runs were wipe fests and though I like to raid, I found myself walking away dissappointed in the evening. Raid time is 8:30, and often after pugging would start after 9 and then a 11 stop time was pretty consistent... so about 90 minutes or so of actual pulls for about 2 kills.. pretty dismal. Fine if you are starting out... and learning raiding, and completely casual, not so much if your not a baddie, you want to be more than casual, but less than 4 nights 4 hours hard core...
Now... I will not raid with that raid leader... Tues they wanted to go back to BWD/BOT, and knew nothing about the FL encounters... As I said, I was not going to BoT/BWD, I lead the raid, and went for beth'tilac. It was good experience for many, but overall, a wipefest, no progress, we never got over half way through phase 1. A bit low on dps, but REALLY low on SA (situational awareness) and reaction times. There was a mage that said they could not see spiderlings till they were half way to us. Thats a lot of lost DPS time, and lot of time traveling with no slow on them.. and overall, just poor. Above us the tank and healer were struggling to get the movement and mechanics right and watch the energy to jump down.
Now, I am working at forming a new group, a second raid team that will just be serious at the raid times... and invest some hour or three per week looking over videos/spec/gear/rotations/priorities and other general info to be a valid contributer in the raid. Be on time, and be ready for the encounter...
I have lead casual raiders, it was a major pain and a major drain to have to call all interupts, dispells, moves, CDs and other stuff, review poor performance, and train peeps on specs, gear, gems, enchants, and often buy/give away stuff to get them more ready, only to have them be unsatisfied over all that they were now better than they were and dont want to be with the scrubs... viscous cycle of the revolving door group... GAHHH.. not doing that. The standards set will be held to or we will not raid... Not interested in pugging either, I will for one or 2, but not sure where I will set my standards on that... Tank Pugs can be really rough, healer pugs can be rough, and dps.. all over the field... it is my intent to build a raid team with reasonably consistent rotation of raiders... I imagine a running roster of 3-5 tanks 4-7 healers and about 4-5 pure dps. rather that comes with dual spec or second toons... all good, about 12-15 players that just want to go kill stuff, they are not raiding for gear... but for kill and there is one of the worst problems in raids. People only want the gear, not the kills, priorities are jacked.. the cart is in front of the horse.. they want delivery before payment...
Ehh, I am done.. have a great weekend
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